21 De'Nicea Hilton: Holistic Menstrual Health



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In today's episode I'm joined by De'Nicea Hilton. DR E:
She is a doctor of Oriental medicine and a holistic period and fertility strategist. DR E:
Her mission is to inspire women seeking holistic methods to support their quest not only DR E:
for relief from menstrual cycle conditions, but for a more aligned and expressed DR E:
whole being. DR E:
Let me just start by saying that this was not the conversation that I was expecting. DR E:
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Hello, everyone, welcome to another episode of The Highway to Health. DR E:
I'm your host, Dr. E 'The Stem Cell Guy'. DR E:
And joining me today is De'Nicea Hilton. DR E:
She's a doctor of Oriental medicine and a holistic period and fertility strategist. DR E:
Her mission is to inspire women seeking holistic methods to support their quest, not only DR E:
by relief from menstrual cycle conditions, but for a more aligned and expressed whole DR E:
being. I was just talking to De'Nicea before we started this recording. DR E:
And what she's doing is incredibly interesting. DR E:
And I'm not afraid to accept that I'm not very knowledgeable on a lot of these topics. DR E:
I'm sure this is gonna be a very interesting conversation, not just for me, but for DR E:
everyone joining us. DR E:
So I'm very, very happy to welcome you, De'Nicea. DR E:
Welcome to the show. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Thank you so much Dr E, I appreciate you having me. DR E:
Well, thank you for accepting the invitation. DR E:
I think this is a great, great topic. DR E:
And honestly, now that we were sharing about this, it really opened up my eyes as a DR E:
traditionally Western trained medical doctor as to how little, unless you go into a DR E:
specific area of medicine, how little we're actually trained and knowledgeable about many DR E:
of these things in this particular case, and especially as a man, you know, in terms of DR E:
fertility and how it relates to periods and all those things. DR E:
So before we get really into it, why don't you just tell us what your concept is of DR E:
menstrual health as you were sharing with me? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Yeah. So holistic menstrual health is really taking into consideration not just the DE'NICEA HILTON:
physical components of the menstrual cycle, but the mental, emotional and spiritual DE'NICEA HILTON:
components as well. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And even linking that in, that's her. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So the physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and then also taking into consideration DE'NICEA HILTON:
her environment. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So I totally believe that we are always fighting with our environment. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So whether or not you're conscious of it, your environment's there and it's an interplay. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right? So it's all of those components that play a role into how her menstrual cycle is DE'NICEA HILTON:
presenting itself. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So it's a different perspective. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right? So it's a shift of, OK. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Well, women are going to menstruate. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's only there. DE'NICEA HILTON:
We'll see if they can reproduce. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right? Whereas from this perspective, it's actually here's our menstrual cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
This is the way that it's showing itself beyond just the active bleed time. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But this is how it's showing itself. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And that is actually representing what is going on for her internally on the physical, DE'NICEA HILTON:
mental, emotional and spiritual levels. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So in Eastern medicine, one big thing is that we look at the whole person. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So, we're looking at the symptoms as these symptoms are letting us know that the organ DE'NICEA HILTON:
systems are not playing well together or that they're disharmonized. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So we see the symptoms as, OK, these are clues calling our attention. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So that's how I see the menstrual cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So when I say the cycle, most people think, oh, it's just when she's bleeding. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But then no, I'm actually talking about cycle day one all the way through to the next DE'NICEA HILTON:
cycle, day one. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So we know that there's so many hormones that are at play and that they're all going DE'NICEA HILTON:
through their ebbs and flows. DE'NICEA HILTON:
They're communicating hopefully in a healthy feedback loop throughout that whole time, DE'NICEA HILTON:
throughout that whole process. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So we're hoping that there's a really healthy shedding. DE'NICEA HILTON:
We hope that there's eggs maturing. DE'NICEA HILTON:
We hope that something ovulates, then we hope, you know, should there be that they're DE'NICEA HILTON:
trying to expand their family, that there's conception and makes its way safely down to DE'NICEA HILTON:
the uterus. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So we hope that's all happening during that time frame. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And what's happening is that there's so much focus on. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Well, if there's pain, just take ibuprofen or if there's heavy bleeding. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Oh, just double up and triple up on pads. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then for that, go by for a few months and then not go see their doc. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then most of the time this is and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what DE'NICEA HILTON:
I've heard and it happened to me as well. DE'NICEA HILTON:
OK. Well, here are birth control options. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so with those tactics, that's just covering up. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. So when you look at the cycle and you're saying, OK, well, let's just break this DE'NICEA HILTON:
down, if she's having complaints mostly during the premenstrual period, that concept of DE'NICEA HILTON:
period bypassing an example is that she's just PMS-ing. DE'NICEA HILTON:
We're just going to leave her be. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But really, she could be progesterone deficient. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So if she's progesterone deficient then what's causing that deficiency? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Or better yet, how about explaining to her that during that time period, those hormones DE'NICEA HILTON:
that are predominating during that luteal phase is actually the timeframe of where she's DE'NICEA HILTON:
actually going to just be a little bit more frank and what it is that she's wanting to DE'NICEA HILTON:
say. She's not sugar coating it like one that's more estrogen dominant, right? DE'NICEA HILTON:
During that time period. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So how about actually letting her know that this is potentially going to happen? DE'NICEA HILTON:
But then now she's more aware and then because she's more aware, she's like, oh, OK, DE'NICEA HILTON:
well, then I can't express that and not have to be mean about it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But it is a way that I can express myself when I'm going to be more frank. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So it's that when you really take a look and you notice that I pointed out some physical DE'NICEA HILTON:
things that I also did point out the mental. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then I pointed out emotional and it's all throughout the whole cycle itself. DR E:
That's what's interesting from what you've said. DR E:
And it goes not against, but it just goes a lot deeper into the understanding and the DR E:
training that we've had on this where it's purely biological in terms of, OK. DR E:
So this is happening. DR E:
And obviously you go into the different cycles and the different phases and the different DR E:
hormones as to how they happen. DR E:
But when you bring in as well the psychological or the mental and you're taking into DR E:
consideration all the external that surround this person in terms of environment. DR E:
And environment, you know, we've done a couple of episodes here in environmental medicine DR E:
and how our environment plays a role in this. DR E:
And it's things not just people. DR E:
When they hear environment, they think it's or where I live. DR E:
Of course it's where you live. DR E:
But also, what are you exposed to? DR E:
What's your diet like? DR E:
What is your lifestyle like? DR E:
What are the things you're doing? DR E:
And it's very interesting to see somebody actually start to address many of these DR E:
different signs and symptoms of really an unhealthy period, because nowadays it's so DR E:
common to have all these terrible pains during your menstrual cycle. DR E:
You know, my wife, she has awful a lot of the times, very severe menstrual cycles. DR E:
And she had been taking, for instance, birth control pills. DR E:
So she's been on birth control pills since she was a teenager. DR E:
And then she stopped and then she got pregnant and then she was feeling OK. DR E:
Then she got is it the IUD? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Yes. DR E:
So she got that one. DR E:
And again, super painful and she just can't wait to get off it. DR E:
But she's scared. DR E:
Because now she's gonna have all these awful periods again. DR E:
So what you're saying is and I'm sure she's far from alone. DR E:
What you're saying is that this is not just a bad draw of cards. DR E:
Something's going on. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Correct. Yeah. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And it's happening, you're right a lot. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Unfortunately, it's happening a lot. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And there's something that you pointed out. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So it's like sticking right out of my mind that's going on with your wife in a way that DE'NICEA HILTON:
she's thinking, because. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Yes, there is. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Being on birth control for so long and all but your memory is what was happening before DE'NICEA HILTON:
you went on it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then despite whether or not it may have gotten better. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. So for some and make it better some it's like, oh, it took the edge off. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But they become so scared of what they think is going to happen again. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right? And then that ends up leaving them in this vicious cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Of well, it's not really helping me. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's actually affecting me in other ways. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But I'm still going to stay on it because I just don't want to experience that DE'NICEA HILTON:
experience. The horrible pain with her periods. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And that's where a little bit of my frustration has led to me to talk more about the DE'NICEA HILTON:
intricacies of the menstrual health, because it's helping her to see what's going on and DE'NICEA HILTON:
then how it is that we can support you where the pain is diminished. DE'NICEA HILTON:
That becomes a side effect because we're actually helping to support and harmonize these DE'NICEA HILTON:
organ systems. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then, yes, the side effect is the cycle ends up becoming more of a healthy cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I don't like to say normal because when we say that it's normal or I've had patients come DE'NICEA HILTON:
in, they say, well, they told me that it was normal. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so they just whatever. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And the thing is, is that it's only normal because you see it so often. DR E:
Yeah. So it's really more about it being common, not necessarily being or even normal, but DR E:
not necessarily being healthy. DR E:
We're so used to seeing most of these things. DR E:
And I'm really, really surprised as to how common you start seeing teenagers really, then DR E:
you start seeing young women with all these symptoms. DR E:
And they've been having it for a long time. DR E:
And it is for me very surprising the lack of real, reliable, thorough, deep information DR E:
and education in terms of menstrual health. DR E:
And even if you just want to call it simple biology, most don't fully understand it. DR E:
I mean, let alone men, but women barely understand what's going on. DR E:
They just think, as we were saying earlier, I don't remember if, you know, at the DR E:
beginning of this recording or before we went on that. DR E:
You were saying that what's most common and I agree with you is that people think that DR E:
the period is just that. DR E:
OK, well, I bleed once a month, right? DR E:
For a couple of days and then it goes away. DR E:
And if I'm lucky, I don't have these terrible pains right before because some of my DR E:
friends do. DR E:
And some of the women are like super heavy bleeders. DR E:
And of course, there's some variability. DR E:
Not everyone is to be exactly the same. DR E:
But where should listeners or people interested in is, Where do they draw the line DR E:
between, OK. DR E:
This is part of the normal variability, and this is it. DR E:
So I need to seek out help or I need to educate myself. DR E:
Where's that line drawn? DE'NICEA HILTON:
A line. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Here you go. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So there are some things that I look for. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I do want to point out that the education part. DE'NICEA HILTON:
This is where the education system is bypassing its period bypassing because they are DE'NICEA HILTON:
weaning out or have completely taken out education when it comes to mesntrual health. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So, we do see a problem there with school administrators and school nurses that they are DE'NICEA HILTON:
trying to figure out how to even handle this because it's not being taught anymore. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And even then, what may be taught is even misleading. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So, yes, we do have that issue there and it's my primary mission and working on trying to DE'NICEA HILTON:
get in there to help with that and to help with understanding what is menstrual health. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So some guidelines that I use when I have a woman come in or a teen come in and we're DE'NICEA HILTON:
assessing her cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So I let her know these are some of the guidelines that I'm looking for. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So I'm looking for a nice even blood flow that is bright red, right, for about three to DE'NICEA HILTON:
five days. DE'NICEA HILTON:
No spotting before or after. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It is a cut on and then cut off. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Very limited to no bleeding. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Very limited to no clotting. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then also as she progresses through that cycle, then I'd want to hear that there are DE'NICEA HILTON:
some nice vaginal moistness that would just slightly increase to where it's a little bit DE'NICEA HILTON:
more of a discharge and then it turns more from opaque, to a little bit more of an egg DE'NICEA HILTON:
white consistency for about a day or two. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then we get drier, not dry in the sense that there's vaginal dryness, but just that DE'NICEA HILTON:
it's not enough. DE'NICEA HILTON:
That's really coming out anymore. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And even when that happens in the middle of a cycle, that there is no pain that's also DE'NICEA HILTON:
happening during that time frame and no bleeding that's also happening during that time DE'NICEA HILTON:
frame. And then she has to progress through the rest of the cycle with very limited to no DE'NICEA HILTON:
breast tenderness, very limited to no bloating. DE'NICEA HILTON:
There is a subtle difference of sensations. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So what I've noticed is that as I teach them and I guide them through it because their DE'NICEA HILTON:
awareness is now in their body, they now have become more sensitive to the subtleties. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So she might actually feel the uterus. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's expanding, right. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So as it's filling up. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so she might start feeling this heaviness. And DE'NICEA HILTON:
she might start feeling like something is about to happen. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So that's that like gray area of it's not necessarily symptomatic as much as it is DE'NICEA HILTON:
sensation. Like she's just really feeling into herself and she's feeling when these DE'NICEA HILTON:
things are happening. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then also, I always suggest using either a menstrual cup or a pad because it really DE'NICEA HILTON:
does allow the flow to come out. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then also you're better able to assess and see like what's the quality of the blood DE'NICEA HILTON:
as it comes out. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then, that way you're able because there have been some that have switched over, and DE'NICEA HILTON:
as soon as they switch over their blood flow changes. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Like within about two to three cycles. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Like the pain will decrease and then even the amount that they're even seeing had DE'NICEA HILTON:
decreased as well. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So even some things when we switched them over from their products, I'm asking them, what DE'NICEA HILTON:
are you using? DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so we're even switching out the products to where there's not chemicals in it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And it's almost like we were saying with the environment, especially for women, the DE'NICEA HILTON:
number of products that we use on a daily basis. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And now you use a tampon or pad that's right there where the permeability that's there DE'NICEA HILTON:
with those cells is so high that these chemicals are just going right into the DE'NICEA HILTON:
bloodstream. Right. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so even by just switching products, there has been a huge change in the way that our DE'NICEA HILTON:
cycle is presenting itself, because there's just you've reduced this toxic load on your DE'NICEA HILTON:
body. DR E:
I had heard something or had read something about the tampons and all the potential DR E:
dangers, because you're absolutely right when you put something inside a mucosa or in DR E:
this case, in the vagina. DR E:
And all these different mucosas are in contact with it. DR E:
You're constantly absorbing all of that. DR E:
Correct? So you have to be very, very mindful. DR E:
And when you think of all these things and you think of, OK, well, they're made of cotton DR E:
and they have all these different materials that are supposed to absorb moisture. DR E:
Then some of that also is being absorbed by the body. DR E:
So how much of a role do you think this plays in affecting all these things? DR E:
I mean, I know how all these different chemicals can affect how we create our hormones DR E:
and how we communicate internally. DR E:
Even, you know, the research is out there that even plastics and things like that are DR E:
affecting our hormones. DR E:
So how about putting something right there that is constantly seeping out chemicals that DR E:
you're actively absorbing throughout the day, especially in a stage like during the DR E:
menstrual cycle? DR E:
How much of a problem do you think this is? DE'NICEA HILTON:
I think it's a huge problem because just think of the proximity. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then it's right there and it's the chemicals that's in it, to make these tampons to DE'NICEA HILTON:
absorb or these pads to absorb. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's the bleaches that are used. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's the pesticides that were used. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's the synthetic fragrance that are used in all of that is right there where we easily DE'NICEA HILTON:
can absorb. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And yes, we'll easily throw off the hormone production and even their function. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Say, if she is a heavy bleeder, like I said, I'm looking for a bleed to be more of a DE'NICEA HILTON:
three to five day timeframe. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But there are many where they're falling out of that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So there are some that are 7 days, some even up to 10 days. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Imagine that about a third of the month you have something consistently there and DE'NICEA HILTON:
consistently with this interplay. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And it's not even like, oh, well, if it's there for 10 minutes and then your absorption DE'NICEA HILTON:
level goes down, well, you have to change it out. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So you're constantly reintroducing this to your system. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then like I said, this is on top now of, say, the shampoo that she just used, the DE'NICEA HILTON:
conditioner she just used, the leave-in conditioner, the deodorant, the lotion, the body DE'NICEA HILTON:
wash. So this is on top of all of that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
That is on a daily basis that she's already using. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Now that's absorbing through the top layer of our skin. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But then it's even easier because of the mucosal layer in the vagina. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So I think that that plays a major, major role. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And if you think it's like tampon use it last time I checked is still number one as far DE'NICEA HILTON:
as what's being used by girls and by women that take some conversation around. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Why? Right. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I've had conversations with different women about when they might have started using DE'NICEA HILTON:
tampons and some it was like that was the first thing that was introduced to them or some DE'NICEA HILTON:
that it came later, that using tampons was their thing. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But then it's the discussion behind why the why how I interpret it is that she's trying DE'NICEA HILTON:
to pretty much act like she doesn't have a period. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so we've created this culture of, well, it's in your way, the period's in your way. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So let's just block it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Once again, she's covering it up. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She doesn't want to really accept that it's there. DE'NICEA HILTON:
You can literally just kind of be like, oh, I'm just gonna plug it up. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Like at the buffet. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I'm just gonna plug it up. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I don't want to deal with it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so it ends up being that's a part that's another example of period bypassing even on DE'NICEA HILTON:
herself because she's not fully embracing that this is a natural occurrence for her. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then you can go back and say, well, how is it introduced to her in the first place? DE'NICEA HILTON:
So everything that has been introduced has been in a way for her to continue to separate DE'NICEA HILTON:
herself from a natural process. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So we're going to cover it up with birth control and then we're going to cover it up with DE'NICEA HILTON:
ibuprofen or Tylenol or whatever. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Then we're going to just plug it up. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So you don't even have to see it anymore. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so even then, when you get into a holistic menstrual health, education is a huge DE'NICEA HILTON:
part. When I have my patients, they know it is a lot of appointments because we're DE'NICEA HILTON:
educating and treating the questions that I ask them. DE'NICEA HILTON:
They get so surprised. DE'NICEA HILTON:
They're a little bit like why you asking me this? DE'NICEA HILTON:
But then at the same time, over time, she actually becomes really empowered and confident DE'NICEA HILTON:
in that, because now she's turned so inward into this is my body, this is my state, this DE'NICEA HILTON:
is how I'm presenting. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And she's like, if anyone is going to know herself more than her, it's just gonna be her. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. So she is now so engaged into cervical mucus, like didn't even know what that was, DE'NICEA HILTON:
you know, or because what she was told was to wear a panty liner. DE'NICEA HILTON:
See I didn't even touch on that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So someone actually wear tampons or pads when they're actively bleeding, but then wear DE'NICEA HILTON:
panty liners for the rest of the month because now in that industry, the period bypassing DE'NICEA HILTON:
example there is that there needs to be some floral freshness scent going on. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I don't know where that came from. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But there is some floral freshness that needs to be happening. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Really not sure where this came from, but it's supposed to smell all nice and flowery. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so now you have douches and you have these panty liners of these fragrances and then DE'NICEA HILTON:
and then you have these sprays. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So even then, they're like yes, spray this down there. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But then you don't understand that once again, this is exposure to chemicals that are DE'NICEA HILTON:
right there with that type of cell that's just going to absorb into your bloodstream and DE'NICEA HILTON:
interact with your hormones. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And really, it's masking. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So it's another way that it's masking the problem. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So if you're attracted to those products, that means that you have an abnormal vaginal DE'NICEA HILTON:
discharge. That means that your micro flora actually might be off where the DE'NICEA HILTON:
vagina is supposed to be more acidic. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Could it be more basic? DE'NICEA HILTON:
And it's throwing off the bacteria that's there and it's producing an odor. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And if that's the case, whereas that happening, let's take a look at what you're eating. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Let's take a look at what other things are you're exposing in that area. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Is it potentially a yeast infection? DE'NICEA HILTON:
That's very low, mild. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Is it potentially a vaginal infection that's very low? DE'NICEA HILTON:
And it's not as gross that it makes you say, let me go see the doctor, get this cultured DE'NICEA HILTON:
or anything. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But if you're masking it with those products, there really could be something else going DE'NICEA HILTON:
on. DR E:
I totally agree. DR E:
I think the amount of yeast that is in our lives in general is incredibly high, and DR E:
especially with the amount of sugars that we're consuming left and right, the DR E:
predominance or the prevalence of yeast pretty much everywhere. DR E:
And in this case, specifically with women, it's just something that needs to be DR E:
addressed. DR E:
And like you said, very, very well, I think, because it's not so gross that you think you DR E:
need to go to the doctor, then you're just masking it and you're adding a spray and DR E:
you're adding all these other things that are just making matters worse. DR E:
But I think that, again, goes back to the fact that there is no real education. DR E:
And you're absolutely right. DR E:
The only education that we're getting for all these things and I can assume it's the same DR E:
for most women. DR E:
Obviously, there's exceptions, but I think that for most women, now that you brought it DR E:
up. You're absolutely right. DR E:
Every single ad that I've ever seen about feminine hygiene product focuses on the fact DR E:
that being in your period is a nuisance and it is a problem and it is something that you DR E:
should be able to live your life through it, normally, and without even having to think DR E:
about it. DR E:
So the whole focus of all these ads is about how you can forget that you're on your DR E:
period. The whole idea is to help you forget that you're on your period, and obviously DR E:
that's attractive to the consumer. DR E:
But the problem is that because we don't have that education, because we don't have that DR E:
knowledge of the importance of the whole period and why the phases are necessary and DR E:
what's happening with women's bodies at that time, I think that that's what makes it DR E:
really, really attractive, because if people really see it as a nuisance and all the DR E:
information that they get from it is that, yeah, it's a nuisance. DR E:
It's something that gets in the way of my everyday life and my enjoyment. DR E:
Of course, I will want to bypass it. DR E:
Right. So do you agree that that's a big part of the problem? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Oh, yeah, definitely. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's a huge part. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Huge, major component. DR E:
Why do you think that there is such a big wide gap in that knowledge? DR E:
Why do you think that's happened? DR E:
I know that for a lot of times, especially with women's issues, most of these topics are DR E:
seen as taboo. DR E:
And I can imagine the school administrators and people saying that, you know what, you DR E:
cannot discuss this openly because there's also men in the room or there's also boys, and DR E:
they're going to feel uncomfortable. DR E:
Why would they feel uncomfortable? DR E:
Right? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. DR E:
And we have less sexual education classes and we have less of everything. DR E:
And now they're just trying to fix it. DR E:
Well, let's just give kids birth control. DR E:
Since they're in their teens and let's just do this and let's just do that. DR E:
The most progressive ones want to give them free condoms. DR E:
Instead of saying, well, let's just educate people so that they can have sex and they can DR E:
have safe sex. DR E:
Right? And that's just starting to gain more acceptance. DR E:
But why is menstrual education such a problem, in your opinion? DE'NICEA HILTON:
I personally feel it's control. DR E:
OK… DE'NICEA HILTON:
And I feel it's control and also money driven. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So say, for instance, if it's not number one, it's number two, menstrual cycle apps DE'NICEA HILTON:
downloaded and used. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then you think, OK, well, if you would really go deeper into menstrual health, DE'NICEA HILTON:
education, and that holistic side. DE'NICEA HILTON:
That's what I teach. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right? You really go into it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
What happens when she learns more about herself and what is natural for her? DE'NICEA HILTON:
It permeates into other areas of her life. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's like this power that she feels like she has, right. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She begins to question these mental constructs and these belief systems that she even has DE'NICEA HILTON:
as far as what it is that she should be doing and who she should be, how she should act. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. So she begins to question that and move into a place of no. DE'NICEA HILTON:
This is who I am. DE'NICEA HILTON:
The menstrual cycle is a part of me and I'm listening to that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And the more she moves into what I say is she's expressing her true self in a healthy DE'NICEA HILTON:
way. The menstrual cycle's side effect is that it actually begins to get healthier and DE'NICEA HILTON:
present itself that way. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But the thing is, is that when she does that, that means that she's gonna start setting DE'NICEA HILTON:
boundaries with other people. DE'NICEA HILTON:
That means that she's now going to question her influence over an influencer. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. Or like I said, if it's too much that's going on. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So like we have these women that are like, I can work full time, I can go and I'll just DE'NICEA HILTON:
play my sports all the time, too. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Like I said, it's to make it seem like it's a nuisance and be forgotten. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But really what's happening is she's over exerting and she's becoming exhausted and it's DE'NICEA HILTON:
weakening her body and it's showing up in these negative symptoms that she's perceiving DE'NICEA HILTON:
as negative coming out her cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But she's just gonna continue to cover it up, but then still have that same lifestyle DE'NICEA HILTON:
that's still working against her. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then it's only until it becomes a major issue that it'll draw like her attention and DE'NICEA HILTON:
make her want to change your lifestyle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But really, there's so much money to be made from menstrual products, from apps being DE'NICEA HILTON:
downloaded and used from fertility treatments, from hormonal birth control use. DE'NICEA HILTON:
There's so much money to be made there. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And when you do teach this, that's when you start to realize like, oh, her cycle's DE'NICEA HILTON:
healthier. She's not gonna use as many pads and tampons or cups. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. Oh, she's not going to need to use midol, pamprin or ibuprofen or she's not going DE'NICEA HILTON:
to need to use the hormonal birth control crap or her menstrual cycle is healthier. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So we may not even have to use as much of an invasive IVF cycle. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. So think about that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
If that menstrual cycle is healthy, all of those other things go away. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She's not going to end up using the panty liner. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She's not going to use the douches. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She's not going to use the vaginal refreshers. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then a big part, too, is that when you're thinking about it as it's like as it is a DE'NICEA HILTON:
nuisance, it's acceptance, you're not accepting yourself and loving yourself. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so when you think about all these beauty campaigns, also, they rely on you not DE'NICEA HILTON:
accepting yourself as you are. DE'NICEA HILTON:
They make you shaky about yourself. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then now that's the period bypassing in that area, a period bypassing amongst DE'NICEA HILTON:
ourselves is the judgment that other women would make on someone else. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. And then that judgment is what pushes her to do things that are really not in her DE'NICEA HILTON:
favor. So she may know this. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She's like, oh, I'm going to wear this foundation. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I know my face is gonna break out. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But I'm going to just wear this foundation. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And in that foundation could be all sorts of chemical reactions that she's not paying DE'NICEA HILTON:
attention to or she doesn't want to because she's not feeling strong in herself and DE'NICEA HILTON:
convicted in herself. DE'NICEA HILTON:
She's out relying on these outside factors. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so when she really learns how the environment, it's playing a role on her menstrual DE'NICEA HILTON:
health. And once again, seeing them as your health is telling you what's going on. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And once she starts seeing the shifts, she starts to see like: crap. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I could do a lot and I love myself and I will do this for myself. DE'NICEA HILTON:
For me to be healthier and in a healthier state, I will engage in activities and in DE'NICEA HILTON:
relationships that I choose to. DE'NICEA HILTON:
You can kind of see where there is that power that comes from, where you're like, DE'NICEA HILTON:
where's? Like, why would we not want to educate? DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then what better way to not educate men? DE'NICEA HILTON:
And what better way to not educate boys? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Because then now you're saying you don't even need to care about this. DE'NICEA HILTON:
You don't have it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then now you go on to do legislation about it. DR E:
Well, and not even that. DR E:
I think a big part of the problem is that as men, as boys that are not educated about DR E:
this. That also adds to that. DR E:
And I want to say. DR E:
Quote unquote, that stigma that women have when they menstruate because boys don't know DR E:
anything about it, so young men don't know that it is a biological function, that it is a DR E:
necessity, I mean, they know about that much, but they don't know, for instance, how it DR E:
can affect them, how it plays a role in their hormones, how it is important and how it DR E:
manifest the entirety of the health and how she needs to accept all these things so that DR E:
when a woman brings up her period, guys, they're completely turned off by it. DR E:
They're like, well, why don't you just take a pill? DR E:
Why don't you just do this? DR E:
Why don't you just do one of those? DR E:
Why don't you just wear a tampon? DR E:
You know, women in their period and she can't get in the pool. DR E:
Well, just put in a tampon. DR E:
Right? Because guys aren't educated. DR E:
So what's the response? DR E:
You know, especially young teenage girls that they want to look nice. DR E:
They want to attract these boys, obviously. DR E:
So what are they going to do? DR E:
They're going to treat it as a nuisance. DR E:
They're not going to accept it. DR E:
They're not going to go through the whole thing. DR E:
So I think it is a perpetuating cycle. DR E:
I as I've said it before, the big part of the problem and a big part of the reason why DR E:
women and a lot of cases are misrepresented starts because we have not been educating men DR E:
and that needs to start changing. DR E:
And obviously, this is such an important topic to discuss, because I do think that it is DR E:
very, very important, obviously, for women to recognize these things. DR E:
It's shocking to me that most women don't really recognize most of these things and they DR E:
continue treating their periods as a nuisance. DR E:
They continue seeing it as something that is getting in the way of them living their DR E:
life, but also because we need to start educating men. DR E:
And as men, we need to start learning about this, because 50 percent of the world are DR E:
women and we all have women in our lives and we care for them most of the time. DR E:
And we need to know these things. DR E:
It is very, very important. DR E:
So thank you so much for being here. DR E:
And thank you so much for sharing that. DR E:
Now, before we wrap this up, we normally like to give a couple of pieces of advice, DR E:
actionable advice for our listeners. DR E:
So, I mean, you've been giving a lot of very valuable information that I'm sure a lot of DR E:
people have taken note of. DR E:
But what would be your top two or three recommendations for listeners to start looking DR E:
out for? DR E:
And maybe it's not so much about things that they can do and maybe it is, but it is more DR E:
about things that they need to become more aware of. DR E:
So what would be your top two or three things that they need to start being more aware DR E:
of? Do they need start doing in order to achieve menstrual health? DE'NICEA HILTON:
One is acceptance. Accept DE'NICEA HILTON:
that this is a natural occurrence. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And I say that, number one, because in a theme for throughout our whole conversation here DE'NICEA HILTON:
is accepting it and now shift your mind into beyond acceptance. DE'NICEA HILTON:
But now observing. DE'NICEA HILTON:
For the woman who's experiencing it, you are observing yourself nonjudgmentally. DE'NICEA HILTON:
That's one of the first places you've got to start is to observe what's going on DE'NICEA HILTON:
throughout the whole cycle and then writing all that stuff out, charting it. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I teach a charting where they're looking at all these different components, but you want DE'NICEA HILTON:
to chart it out. DE'NICEA HILTON:
For the men. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's even observing from a place of accepting that this is happening and that the DE'NICEA HILTON:
menstrual cycle is happening for her on a daily basis oftentimes. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And this is why it is important for men to learn this. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Because usually you're the front line when there could be issues, but it's joked off. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So if you do see that there is a gross emotional mood swing, it may be on a line of, you DE'NICEA HILTON:
know, something like premenstrual dysphoric disorder. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And you want to just call about attention to her. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Or if you find that you're having to go out and get products for her, that seems like DE'NICEA HILTON:
she's going through so many of them. DE'NICEA HILTON:
You may want to bring that attention that it could be that something else can be going DE'NICEA HILTON:
on. Or if she is having pain during sex or she's saying, no, she doesn't even want to DE'NICEA HILTON:
have sex, that actually could be a sign of something like endometriosis. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So it's almost like step out of yourself, it ain't nothing for you to take personal. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right? It's not that she doesn't want to do it with you. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's just that it could be painful. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And so you want to move into a place of accepting number one that the menstrual cycle is DE'NICEA HILTON:
happening on a daily basis. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So there are those ebbs and flows in those changes for her. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And then number two, to just observe, like what's happening during that time, during the DE'NICEA HILTON:
whole time, and just kind of seeing and analyzing based on her cycle days, you know, DE'NICEA HILTON:
what's there. DE'NICEA HILTON:
So then that when you do go in to see somebody, if you going to see a provider, DE'NICEA HILTON:
practitioner, whatever modality you're coming in with so much information about yourself, DE'NICEA HILTON:
that only helps us to be able to help, you know. DR E:
Of course. DE'NICEA HILTON:
Right. DR E:
Yes. And it does raise that awareness. DR E:
And it's crazy how often the theme or the main point of a lot of the conversations that I DR E:
have on this show are about being aware. DR E:
It's incredibly surprising to me to see how often we live our lives in general just on DR E:
autopilot and we're just going through it and not aware of really what's happening, so DR E:
really just bringing that awareness is incredibly important. DR E:
And they couldn't agree with you more about that. DR E:
Where can people find out more about you? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Actually, you can go to my Web site. DE'NICEA HILTON:
It's DeNicea Hilton, D E N I C E A. Hilton, H I L T O N dot DE'NICEA HILTON:
com and then also on Facebook at DeNiceHilton, it's my Facebook page and also DE'NICEA HILTON:
@DeNiceaHilton on Instagram. DR E:
There you go. DR E:
Perfect. So people go look out for that information. DR E:
For all the women listening if you want to learn more. DR E:
I believe that you've got some online education resources there. DR E:
So make sure that you stop by. DR E:
You start learning about this. DR E:
And I would go a step beyond just accepting. DR E:
I would go into embracing, because really the tremendous power that women have to create DR E:
life comes from the fact that they have a cycle, that they have a fertility cycle. DR E:
So really, it is very, very important to embrace it. DR E:
I'm not going to deny that. DR E:
It's probably I don't know. DR E:
I've never had one, obviously. DR E:
But I'm not I'm not gonna deny that it's probably uncomfortable to certain days of the DR E:
cycle. And it's off putting to have those mood swings and all those things. DR E:
But in reality, when you realize that the reason you have those or the only reason to DR E:
have those is because you are fertile, you're able to bear life. DR E:
So I think that it's very important to go a little bit beyond just simply accepting and DR E:
really start embracing it. DR E:
Because when you accept that, it's kind of like, well, you know, this is my thing and I DR E:
have to carry this. DR E:
But in reality, you get to have a period because you also get to create life. DR E:
And it is a source of great power biologically. DR E:
So I do think that should we embrace it and free all the men listening, I think it is DR E:
very, very important for us to get educated and better educated and to bring this topic DR E:
out of the taboo realms and ask questions, you know, ask your partners and ask, you know, DR E:
what's their experience like and be curious about it because it is something that we need DR E:
to be there for them as well. DR E:
We're all surrounded by women. DR E:
We all, most of us all have women in our lives and, I think it's very, very important for DR E:
us to be caring for them. DR E:
And this is such an important and obvious marker of health. DR E:
A healthy period is so important to have. DR E:
So thank you so much, De'Nicea, for having us. DR E:
Any parting words? DE'NICEA HILTON:
Thank you. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I couldn't agree with you more on the embracing that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
I love that. DE'NICEA HILTON:
And I just wanted to implore and I appreciate you providing the avenue and the space to DE'NICEA HILTON:
get this out there, because it's really through these avenues that we're able to really DE'NICEA HILTON:
impart and inspire action and change when it comes to this. DR E:
Absolutely. Well, we've been discussing the whole problem starts with a lack of education. DR E:
So we're doing our job. DR E:
I think that as health providers, it's part of our job to educate people and not just DR E:
when they're sitting in front of us, but to try to do our best. DR E:
If we have a knowledge of biology and we have a knowledge of how the human body works and DR E:
what's better for us from that standpoint. DR E:
I think it is our job to educate them, because if we don't, then the manufacturers of DR E:
products will. DR E:
And that's what we're saying. DR E:
So that's what we're seeing and that's what we're reaping the results as well. DR E:
We've never been as obese as we are right now. DR E:
We've never been as unhealthy as we are right now. DR E:
That's why we've never been as inactive as we have right now, because we have neglected DR E:
as health professionals the education part of our role. DR E:
So thank you so much again for joining us. DR E:
For everyone listening. DR E:
I hope you enjoyed this episode. DR E:
And we will see you again on the next week with another great episode as well. DR E:
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