Anti-Abortion Activists Are Not “Pro-Life,” says Jesse Ventura


What angers me about the pro – and I don’t
call them pro-lifers anymore. I call them pro birthers because here’s why. Here’s
what angers me. They all want to outlaw abortion and then all these kids come into the world
and you have the same people take away welfare and they take away the very safety net that
many of these unwanted children are going to need to survive. So if they give birth
and then they say well you’re on your own now. Well what’s the odds of these unwanted
children becoming successful? I’d say slim to none. So if you’re anti-abortion then
you should be pro welfare because somebody’s going to have to take care in many cases not
every child is born into your perfect Leave It to Beaver family, you know. People get
pregnant and but my belief unequivocally is it’s a women’s right to choose because
that woman has to give birth to that child and that woman has to raise that child. Now
men play a role too but women play a larger one and it’s certainly their choice to make.
And banning Planned Parenthood or stopping money for that is ridiculous because if you’re
anti-abortion you should be pro contraception. But yet they’re not, are they. And you should
be. If you’re anti-abortion than you should be very strongly pro-contraception. That’s
why I don’t call them pro-life anymore. I call them pro birth because they don’t
care about them after the birth. There ain’t no safety net from that point.

100 Replies to “Anti-Abortion Activists Are Not “Pro-Life,” says Jesse Ventura”

  1. Is life not worth protecting even if quality of life is sacrificed? Some of the most joyful and resilient people in this world are those who live in the midst of poverty and have overcome adversity.

  2. I completely agree. I'm pro-life, so long as we're a country that takes responsibility for our children. But because we aren't yet, I have to be pro-abortion.

  3. An embarrassing jumble of grandstanding, deflections, and non sequitors. Even if he's right, and republicans oppose abortion just because they are a bunch of meanies, the idea that that invalidates their position commits two logical fallacies

    A) Tu quo-que (appeal to hypocrisy). Just because republicans are hypocritical doesn't mean they're wrong. That's like saying "you can't trust FDR's opinion on the holocaust because he supported japanese internment!"

    B) False moral equivalence: Safety nets aren't a matter of survival, they are about standard of living. Even without a social safety net, virtually no one would starve to death. Food is too cheap and widespread. No social safety net would make life harder, but abortion makes life impossible.

    Also, contraception isn't the answer. Abortion is a logical and inevitable consequence of a society that thinks a woman's natural fertility is something that needs to be suppressed, and treats babies as something we need to control and have protection from.

  4. So abortion should be legal so that poor people won't cause more people to go on welfare by having babies? So what do you say to the single mother below the poverty line? That her baby is useless? That her child will only be a drain on social welfare?

  5. the same people that are pro "life:, are also pro religious, anti welfare, and pro guns, I swear there is no one more full of shit than a religious right winger.

  6. religious people contradict themselves in their decisions because the very book they worship contradicts itself, they're walking paradoxes of ignorance and I hate everybody. fuck all of you

  7. As far as the "right to choose" the only choice that is of any importance is Gods. Not including rape cases, the woman had the choice of whether or not to have sex. As all people over the age of ten should know that there are consequences to all actions, so if you're grown enough to have sex then you should be grown enough to accept the responsibility that comes later. to murder Gods creation is not right, he hand crafted that child for you too love and protect and someone would choose to do this because that child (who would love you without conditions) is not convenient?Now onto the welfare issue. Not to say that people with genuine disabilities or the truly poor don't deserve help, but Welfare should be eradicated. God tells us to give to those in need as we would give to ourselves not support those who are able but won't work. it is written: he who will not work should not eat. One of the biggest problems in this instance is that people are trained to have a misconception of what our needs versus our wants. Another problem is that no one trusts God to provide and most don't follow his will for our lives, he won't bless those who ignore him. If we changed that about ourselves then poor would not be an issue.

  8. If you notice something with the pro-birthers, when do they care about you?  If you're unborn, rich, or healthy at serving age.  Now what does that tell you?  They need fresh cannon fodder for their wars, so let the strongest babies survive, then throw you a rifle and deploy you to the front.  But, even if you have served, if you end up crippled or damaged, you're on your own. It really sounds like some covert eugenics.

  9. Hey stupid grandpa. There is a choice of not having unprotected sex, and a choice of not having sex when your household income is low or the government is in bad condition.

  10. thank you. and there is also the arguement of giving a child up for adoption, but I have seen commercials and radio ads telling people to adopt US kids and not foreigners. if every single pro birther adopted every single unwanted child in this country then they can have a say in adoption. until then, use common sense and not religion or "morals" to defend your reasoning

  11. "They don't care about them after the birth". Hell they don't even care about them after she chooses not to abort. No prenatal care, no nothing.

  12. Jesse you are a complete fool with no morals to condone the murder of innocent, unborn children. So it would have been ok for your own mother to have had you sliced up alive in the womb with curettes. Don't pretend you're a humanitarian when you condone the murder of the innocents. You are one sick individual and as i said, A FOOL!

  13. Why the hell should I care about this guys opinion? He is simply vomiting popular talking points that have been repeatededly refuted.

  14. Well said. If you're really pro-life, you would be pro-contraceptives, pro-birth control, pro-welfare, pro-healthcare and pro-parenthood. But nope, most of em don't even care about the parents lives and their well-being, nor the childs well-being as well.
    Going pro-choice and Staying there! Abortion is only necessary at certain costs. But it should not be abused at all (aka, have 9< abortions because you can't seem to care about using a condom, birth control or consider an IUD or Vasectomy).

  15. I challenge Jesse Ventura to come to the March for Life that way he can understand what pro-lifers are about rather then listen to the liberal media.

  16. The “consequences” are children you fucking psycho. You’re condemning them to death with your words, saying things you could not possibly know about their lives, in order to justify murdering them.

    Congratulations.

  17. He has no clue what he is talking about. Most pro-lifers are not against government help, we don't want lazy people who don't want to work to take advantage of the system. But someone who actually needs help should get it. There are a little over 600 Planned Parenthood clinics in America… There are over 15,000 pro-life clinics in America. There are pro-life organizations and clinics that offer help to women in crises. They offer financial help, therapy, and much more. 99% of all abortions are done as birth control. Only 1% of abortions done is in the case of rape, incest, or to save the mothers life. The majority of women who get abortions are manipulated, lied to, or forced into abortions. I have heard many testimonies from women who have had abortions and most of them said, "I felt like I didn't have any other choice." Now is it really a choice if they feel like it's their only option? Most women who have an abortion struggle with depression, suicide, anxiety, and night mares for years after an abortion. To me that doesn't sound like the best thing for women. Most women after an abortion feel empty inside. it's not their body not their choice. They have a living body inside them. If it was their body than they would be the ones to die. I know that unborn babies are living because I am 6 months pregnant. I can feel the baby kick and hiccup. My daughter looks like a human and on the last ultrasound we could see her move. An unborn child has a heartbeat at 21 days. An unborn child can feel pain by 16 weeks. The baby's brain starts developing almost at the moment of conception. A baby in the womb can suck their thumb, dream, cry, hiccup, play with their toes/fingers/umbilical cord. The reason why so many kids are in the adoption system is not because there aren't plenty of adults who want to adopt, it's because it is extremely difficult to adopt. Adopting a child is not like adopting a puppy or cat. Adoption can cost up to $40,000. There are also a ton of stipulations… you must be married, you must live in a house, you must live in a decent neighborhood, both parents must have good jobs, must go through a background check, the baby must have its own room. If a child is in the foster care system then their biological parents can decide at any time to get their child back. Some foster kids aren't up for adoption because the system is just waiting for the parents to get their act together and than they can have their child back. We need to make abortion illegal and improve our adoption system. I believe that we can offer a better future for our women than to tell them that they must choose between their career and their child. Another thing nobody knows what a future can hold. The situation that you are born in is not necessarily the situation that you will live or die in.

  18. The problem with pro lifers is many of them want to ban abortion all together. Which is anti freedom.

  19. I am pro-life in every aspect before birth and after which is why I am pro contraception and very for social welfare and safety net programs. All of these reasons and more are why I although I am pro life don't support the pro life movement because of their blatant hypocrisy

  20. You are NOT Pro-Life
    "I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."
    Sister Joan Chittister

  21. Hey so called pro-lifers… Your groups have been sending people into Planned Parenthood offices with cameras for the last 30+ years. Where is the video of someone saying "yes we can perform your abortion"????????? Why are you not demanding to see the videos?????? These groups are asking you for $$ – Ask to see the videos first

  22. Why don't their parents get a damn job and make decent damn decisions for themselves and their own children your neighbor shouldn't give someone with a gun money so he can give it to you to pay for your child

  23. Frank Lance
    What a load of nonsense you sprout out and typical of the lefties who come out with that pack of lies ,anything to vilify someone else who does more for other human beings than psychopaths like you, besides you do not have the knowledge to say what all pro lifers do and don't do,it's probably a lot more than you do

  24. There are plenty of childless couples out there who would love to adopt ,you have no idea of what you are ranting about

  25. Pro choice = pro murder ! Planned parenthood was designed to get rid of "undesirables" . Look up Margaret Sanger who spoke at KKK rallies!

  26. Killing is murder correct?
    Killing is taking another life right?
    Sperm is living right?
    Egg cells are living right?
    All cells are living correct?
    So the fetus is always living through the state of being an embryo and through being 9 months in the womb correct?
    If you kill this living thing it is murder and all these questions are proven correctly just an FYI

    And if you don’t want to get pregnant don’t have sex. Not saying stay away from it just wear a condom or don’t do it at all. Don’t get pregnant and blame life and blame your uterus it’s completely your choice on whether u get pregnant or not. And if you happen to get pregnant adoption a thing you know and I have absolutely no problem with it I have a problem with killing living babies

    Thank you!

  27. yeah lets also kill every kid in africa and siria, because what chance do they have in life right. They are born in poverty, war, without rigths, they are more likely to suffer of chronic mal nutrition, get aids, and also are more likely to dont have a family. So just because they dont have a fair chance in life, just kill them.

    This is of course sarcasm, and Jesse Ventura is an idiot. Please people, think before repeating every idiotic thing that someone famous says.

  28. Pro”Birthers” XD funny comeback, sweet! Just like that antiObama “Birther” thing.

    Also, there are idiots that look like they’re defending the rapists if they even oppose abortion in rape cases. They’re sickfucks supporting the rapists more than the raped victims.

  29. I agree with part of Mr. Ventura's statements. i am prolife with exceptions, a moderte Democrat, pro birth control, antitorture, antigun, anti death penalty, antiwar, prosafe sex education, I think healthcare and birth control should be free and on demand. i just think it's a human life that has the right to live unless the mother was raped, something is wong with the baby, or the mother has medical problems. Basically, I am saying abolitionists and proaborts are both stupid. I favor safe, legal, and LAST RESORT only, please, but let's have Medicare for all, which provides free healthcare and birth control for everyone. i had my tubes removed, so yes, I live by my own moral code.

  30. women get pregnant they have no right to have a choice to kill a baby they should bring that child up ,make it feel wanted its not nice to not be wanted that child has rights

  31. ALL BABIES ARE WANTED BY GOD WE BELIEVE WOMEN SHOULD BE FORCED TO GIVE BIRTH BABIES ARE PLANNED BY GOD BABIES SHOULD BE LOOKED AFTER IN CARE IT BRINGS A DISGRACE TO WOMEN WHEN PEOPLE HAVE ABORTIONS

  32. No womb = no say.
    If you do not agree with abortion then do not have one.
    Other people have no say in the medical decisions of others.
    Pregnancy
    is a hostparasitic relationship. It is not symbiotic and in no case
    does the parasite take consideration over the host.
    If men could get pregnant then abortion on demand would not be in question.

    Anti-abortion?
    Then
    please show me your organ donor authorization, tissue type matching
    verification, blood donation history, the number off children you have
    adopted, AND your work against the death penalty.
    Otherwise…remain silent.

  33. Ya guys, there life's gonna suck anyways why not murder them first and put through out of there misery. It's not like there are child abuse laws, and places poor people can get help. Maybe you should take birth control or get a job before having a child. And soldiers both have a choice and options. And Iraqis could be terrorists and mirders too don't confuse them

  34. The more you can kill, the less you'll have to raise. Jesse BELIEVES in making an better world by committing genocide, just like Thanos.

  35. Damn Jesse! You are a frickin idiot!!!!! I was born to a 16 year old mother with no money or support. I know have an incredible family, education, career, and most importantly a close relationship with our Lord and Savior!!! Just because we don’t believe in welfare doesn’t mean we should support baby murdering!!! Oh yeah and Jesse….I don’t call them pro-choicest anymore…..I call them BABY MURDERERS!!!! Because that’s what they are Jessie! Go watch a live abortion on YouTube you moron! Beating heart after 18 days and fully functioning nervous system after 30 days. No abortion happens before 30 days.

  36. I love this guy so much it's a real American this libertarian that looks at the whole picture logically and without bias to his own personal opinion.

  37. That is an absolute lie! Pro-lifers are more pro-choice than these so-called pro-choicers! Pro-lifers are for both the baby and the woman. We are telling that woman with an unintended or unplanned pregnancy that she doesn't have to have an abortion. She can get help. There are crisis pregnancy centers. There are homes for unwed mothers. There are adoption services. She can get material help.

    The pro-choicers are even attacking these crisis pregnancy centers. The pro-lifers, including the crisis pregnancy centers, are telling people the truth about abortion, and the pro-choicers don't want to hear the truth about it. And the truth is this: abortion is murder! Abortion is killing an unborn baby! It is not health care! It is not a so-called "woman's choice." It is not "reproductive freedom!" It is not a "Constitutional right." Nowhere in does it say that a woman has the right to kill her unborn child!

    As far as contraceptives go, abortion and all forms of artificial birth control are clearly against the teachings of the Catholic Church! The only form of birth control that the Church allows is Natural Family Planning, and that's it!

    Talk about a "woman's right to choose/to control her own body/her own life/her own destiny:" if a woman doesn't want to have a child, she shouldn't have sex in the first place! She should "make the choice" before she lays down to have sex; not after the baby has been conceived and has already been formed in her womb! St. Paul says that our bodies are Temples of the Holy Spirit. You don't destroy God's Temple; and that includes having an abortion!

    And this "abortion is a private matter between a woman and her doctor" nonsense! When a woman gets pregnant, it's everybody's business; especially God's business!

    Since 1973, over 60 million unborn babies have been murdered simply because "it's a woman's right to choose" and "a woman has the right to control her own body." What about the rights of these unborn babies? The Prophet Jeremiah said that before He formed us in the womb, God knew us!

    God is not pleased with the way that America is headed. Americans are rejecting God's laws, especially when it comes to sex, marriage, family, and relationships, and choosing to live on their own terms! It's bad enough that the Supreme Court has legalized both abortion and same-sex marriage! Now people aren't even happy with the gender that they were born with! Lord have mercy! What has happened to our society? And don't give me this "separation of church and state" nonsense either!

    And in my 62 years of life on this earth, I have never seen such utmost disrespect for our President! What I saw the night that Donald Trump elected President was a page right out of the 60's! Riots and protest marches in the streets and on college campuses and shouting out obscenities! High school students walking out of class! And a lot of these high school kids are not old enough to vote yet! These Democrats, liberals, and leftists want Donald Trump and Mike Pence out of office simply because they don't like their policies! Even Maxine Waters wants Donald Trump impeached! The ACLU even wants to sue President Trump simply because he declared a national emergency over the immigration issue! Mike Pence's wife Karen was also attacked because she teaches at a school not allow the homosexual lifestyle! They want America to accept their liberal and leftist agenda as the law of the land.

    Well I got news for them. Donald Trump isn't going anywhere! He is Our President whether we like it or not! We elected him! Hillary lost the election! He is our President until 2021! Donald Trump and Mike Pence are standing up for the rights of the unborn! Trump wants immigrants to enter this country legally and to obey our laws! That is not discrimination!

    Since these liberals and don't like Donald Trump, next year, they can vote for either Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, or any other liberal and leftist candidate of their choice! I'm sticking with Donald Trump!

  38. No welfare is being abuse it the parent responsibility. Now here a fact if woman and men screw up it there consequence.
    Yes we are pro conceptions stop lying

  39. So we should just kill babies because there’s a chance they might be born into a bad family and need welfare etc
    I don’t support welfare but I’m anti abortion if u have sex u risk having a kid and that’s a life it’s not an oops abortion that’s a life

  40. Jesse is wrong. His logic doesn't follow. Imagine if we were having this discussion about the genocide of our homeless population. There is a group arguing it is wrong to murder people based on their current living arrangements. The other side responses, " well you don't want to pay for their housing, you only care about them before we gas them." ….it is still immoral to murder them. And it is not immoral to think it isn't the government's role to be a nanny state.

  41. This is a silly argument. Women are only 1/3rd of the topic of abortion. What about the fathers right to parenthood, or the child’s right to life.

    Why should it be a woman’s choice to take the life of an individual she helped create. If she didn’t make it alone she shouldn’t have sole authority over it.

  42. Well, having value for human life doesn't mean I am now responsible for upbringing that life. Just BC I acknowledge that a human being starts being human at concept doesn't mean it's all of a sudden my job to provide for those babies. Two fifferent arguments entirely.

    Here's how I feel, for the exceptions like rape incest or life threat if mother, then it should b outlawed, should not b a form of birth control. Instead…and stay with me, why can't we use sex control as a form of birth control?? Like idk keep ur legs closed?? Sex is not a right it is a responsibility. If u chose a behavior or choosing the action, if I chose to get drunk then chose to drive I'm also choosing to get pulled over get an accident or possibly harm myself anf others…if I lay down with a man for "fun" thank the product of that fun is the consequence of a baby I must pay for my decision. Sex since the beginning of all life, it's only purpose has been to procreate…for thousands of years humans have known that if u have sex u get babies…period..to develop a potential life to a point u restricted it from flohrishing is heinous and inhumane.

    If I was a vegatble but I could at some point wake up, the fact that I'm a burden and cost money, the fact that I am not sentimental does not give anybody the right to kill me bc I have the potential to wake up and its Noone elses choice to decide if I wake up or not that is up to god and thr force of nature. Not me or anybody else. Just like being pregnant, that life if let be would form into a human being with thoughts and feelings. it has its own generic code

    Satin a human embryo is a life and shouldnt b allowed to be killed is not the same thing as wanting to take personal responsibility for raising that child…the child was unwanted yea but you gotta face the music of ur actions, u lay down u conceive IDC if the daddy leaves its still no excuse. u chose that man. and if u chose a shitty man why should I have to pay for that?? If a baby was truly unwanted then maybe don't have reckless sex with jo ability to grasp responsibility for that act.

    Children having children then deciding they can't do it…then don't do that very act it takes to bring a hold into the world.

  43. THANK YOU! They waster their time on this bullshit. People are starving, hurting, are homeless…. right here, right NOW, where are they to help those kids? #prochoiceforever

  44. I’m sure firefighters are told in training, “If you save someone, you are going to be responsible for their medical costs, food, housing, and other needs. You may want to let them burn if you’re not ready for that.” Pro-life does not mean that we don’t care about them, it means we don’t want them killed because of some lame excuse of, “what if?”

  45. This video is offensive and a gross misrepresentation of pro-life individuals. You demonize us and generalize us and our beliefs in order to justify the VIOLENCE that is elective abortion. The welfare state is something that has pros and cons. If you want to debate the pros and cons fairly without throwing that in our FACE every time we try to stand up for unborn children, I'm sure many of us would be happy to do that. Also, you say that we are the "evil ones" because we don't want to "help the child after they're born". That's literally the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. I can't tell you how many pro-life individuals I know that hold fundraisers and events in order to serve underprivileged families. Get off your high horse! Pro-choice individuals are NOT the only people who care about women and children. They just need to make it seem like they are to justify elective abortion. Also, remember the so terrible it was great Bill Nye video (he's an engineer, not a biologist btw) you guys released where he was literally DENYING science and said that zygotes weren't human beings at their earliest stage of development. I literally could go get my biology book from high school and prove him wrong. Big Think, why don't you make content that is less sensationalized and more fairly represents the other side?? Many pro-life people may not think welfare is the best long term solution to solving systemic poverty. But at least we don't advocate for children to be KILLED as a means to "spare them" from being "poor". Do you even realize how offensive that is to so many poor people who still have happy and loving families?! Please, do better.

  46. There is a more effective way to ensure no abortion… Vasectomy… Its reversible… And the side effects are less than pills …

  47. You don't get to decide if someone else's life is worth living. That is a disgusting reason to kill an unborn child.

  48. Protection of life….not protection of quality of life.

    Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome.

    Murder vs poverty…..apples to ceiling tiles

  49. There would be NIL Abortion Murders if woMEN took better care of themselves. You should not be creating life if you do not want the life. When your urge reaches boiling point….. Have a rub, or get someone to rub it for you, and above all else, never ever play with an erect milk dispenser. Flick your button and be done with it.

  50. if you don't want children, don't get pregnant. you don't get to murder your child because its an inconvenience to you. this has nothing to do with women's rights.

  51. Pro-punishment they are. Believers in myths still not understanding that they need to prove something about their beliefs in first time. What is the scientific evidence about that some cells in your body are a person? ah…

  52. I am anti abortion, pro contraception, pro responsibility, pro education, pro information on ALL choices, not just the ones that fit a particular agenda. I am not pro welfare, but am pro work so you can live as an individual and not be a slave to the government and whoever in power's political agenda. And when it comes to pregnancy, I AM pro choice. In fact, I believe in 4 choices. Abstinence, birth control, adoption and parenthood (and this goes for both men and women).

  53. Inevitably the more unwanted and impoverished children that are forced into the world, it will be VERY EASY to take away your parental rights. This is end game.

  54. I personally don’t agree with abortion all the time. But in rape cases, women should have the rights to choose if they want to keep the child or not. At least I got a smart friend who is pro-life, respects the rights of women to abort in rape-related cases, and still support healthcare for the poor and working mothers. She’s truly pro-life there.

  55. Jesses right. Last thing we want is for people to take responsibility for their own actions. You wanna be pro life fine. Why don’t we make a law that in school we teach sex ed. And I’m that class we show a video of an abortion in real time. Him saying what he did about people who are pro life or pro birth is a little broad. I know there are people that believe that and fuck those people. Doesn’t mean people should stay on welfare till their child is 18 though. I guess he did his best to explain a complicated issue in 2 min. Just like me in 1 paragraph

  56. And they homeschool their kids so they don't learn social skills and the kids get lonely and that could mean suicide

  57. And we call pro-choice Pro abortion and we want to outlaw abortion and we want to help the kids so what you’re saying makes no sense

  58. Not every child is Born to leave it to beaver family but every child should be able to have a right to life

  59. Thank you, Jesse. I loved you back when i was a kid in the 80s watching wrestling and now have a world of respect for you standing up for women's rights. We need more men to be vocal on this issue. We, women, can't do it alone. There's too many men in politics who dont take our stances and concerns seriously and chew us up and spit us out simply to maintain evangelical Christian voting bloc. Thank you.

  60. This is the stupidest thing Ventura ever said, I used to support this guy all the time. There's always a social program out there, whatever. I see girls with 3 children working as a waitress, doesn't mean it's easy.
    Why don't we bring back marriage, that would be nice.

  61. Think about this I’m 38 states in the US you get a double homicide if you kill a pregnant women but if you kill that child with abortion it’s totally okay in these peoples minds, little bit backwards if you ask me if I put a gun to your head right now and said your gonna go to a foster home or I’m gonna blow your brains out I’m pretty sure 99.99999% of you would go to the foster home to have a chance at life

  62. I'll tell you why both Dems and Rep want this! It's all about the American Dollar! Another generation of borrowers from loans!!! Also include the immagrants too!!! And nobody can stop this cause we won't be fucked with! The military backs the dollar!!! Many countries use the dollar and only we can make more!!! Who's in control are the banks!!!!!!!!!!! Duh.

  63. I don't necessarily call myself pro life, but what I am, is against all these irresponsible, self-centered losers who wanna wait until there 6 months, 7 months pregnant, hell, even 5 months, to make a canned decision. If you're gonna do it (or not) take a few days of a week even and make that decision quickly. I promise it hurts that fetus more than it does you if you dont. I support your right to choose, but, as in all things, be responsible. So, no, you shouldn't be allowed to have one after 4 months. Believe it or not folks, but it's really and truly not all about you. Seriously. It's not. Barring those few special circumstances, there's no reason in the world that this cannot be adhered to. It's the nature and responsible thing to do. And very self-centered and egotistical to believe otherwise. If you're gonna do it, do it now. That's all. Not hard. Very simple, actually.

  64. This is absolutely terrible logic it’s hilarious! Please, if you think this is good logic let me know which quotes you support the most from him and I’ll debunk the logic of it… trust me, it’s not hard

  65. Some simple, brilliant thoughts here. But I don't even like calling them pro-birth, because even that sounds too nice. I just refer to them as anti-abortion, since that's technically what this is. We could also call them anti-Bible because the Bible is pro-abortion.

    The anti-abortion movement has always been nothing more than a scam meant to appeal to the ignorant presumptions of the evangelical Christians who are spoon-fed political propaganda by their preachers and Christian TV personalities. Propaganda delivered through the vehicle of religion — it's all about identity politics and virtue signaling. The right wing has gone and made a huge issue out of literally nothing, convinced their voters that this is practically the only thing in the world that matters, and is now leveraging that contrived ideology to make their gullible followers vote for them. The right wing has turned into a cult today, to the point where otherwise rational people are now voting for demagogues with violent rhetoric simply because they wrongly think that abortion = baby murder. This strategy has worked beautifully for Republicans and they have at least half the country totally duped on this issue. It's sad to see. In reality, there is no philosophical or scientific argument to be made against abortion in principle. The only argument against it is religious, and even THAT'S wrong because God totally <3 abortion, at least according to their sacred scriptures that they never read…

  66. Abortion should remain legal, a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy whenever she wants, banning abortion solves nothing and the pro-life movement is hypocritical and bereft of morality. Change my mind.

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