Anti-abortion group says Mo. Planned Parenthood violated patient safety

WILLIAM BRANGHAM: And now for the other side. I’m joined now by Mallory Quigley. She’s vice president for communications for
the Susan B. Anthony List, a national anti-abortion organization. Welcome to the “NewsHour.” MALLORY QUIGLEY, Vice President of Communications,
Susan B. Anthony List: Thank you so much for having me. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: So the state of Missouri
is saying it’s got to close the Planned Parenthood because that clinic, they say, is violating
health standards. MALLORY QUIGLEY: Mm-hmm. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: And you heard Dr. Leana
Wen of Planned Parenthood. They say the state just keeps trying to move
the goalposts, that their real aim is just to close the clinic and stop abortions in
Missouri totally. What is your take on that? MALLORY QUIGLEY: I think we just have to look
at the facts. It was a patient complaint that actually prompted
the investigation into the clinic, and they found multiple violations. A woman who went in for an abortion actually
remained pregnant. There’s talk of botched abortions, failure
to do proper informed consent. Actually, an ambulance has been called to
this particular facility in Saint Louis more than 70 times since 2009. That — she mentioned a public health crisis. That sounds like a public health crisis to
me. We know what happens when public health officials
don’t inspect abortion facilities. It happened in Pennsylvania for 17 years. They didn’t inspect clinics. Kermit Gosnell was convicted eventually of
killing unborn children that had — children that had been born alive and the death of
one patient. In fact, EMS could not get her out because
the hallways were not wide enough, and there was debris everywhere. So these regulations aren’t arbitrary. They’re about the health and safety of women. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: I should state for the record
the case that you’re citing is not a Planned Parenthood clinic. But it was, yes, an unregulated… MALLORY QUIGLEY: That — right. True. True. I just am speaking to the — the Missouri
Department of Health is tasked with protecting the health and safety of women. That’s what they’re trying to do here. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: But let’s just say that
that Planned Parenthood clinic, the only abortion-providing clinic in Missouri, were to not be able to
do that. Don’t you worry that women who still would
like to have an abortion will proceed to find that procedure in much more dangerous, much
more unregulated ways, and that that, in the end, could be much more harmful to women in
Missouri? MALLORY QUIGLEY: Well, I think that just because
it’s the last abortion facility doesn’t mean that there shouldn’t — it shouldn’t be held
to any standard. Planned Parenthood shouldn’t get special treatment
because they want to stay open. There is actually a Planned Parenthood clinic
doing abortions just across the river, so it is quite nearby to Saint Louis. But I think that we’re really speaking about
the issue of abortion and less access. We need to provide better answers for women
who are facing unexpected pregnancies. Abortion isn’t the best solution. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Right, but should women
— it’s still a legal procedure under Roe v. Wade that women across the country — and
they all — the majority of women polled in almost every state in the country argue, I
understand the position of the anti-abortion movement, but this is still a legal procedure,
it is my body, and I would like to have the right, with consultation with my doctor and
partner perhaps, to make this choice for myself. MALLORY QUIGLEY: Well, in Missouri, the people
— the duly elected representatives of the people, they sent them to Jefferson City with
a mandate to protect life. And I would argue that this is the problem
with Roe vs. Wade, is that it was profoundly undemocratic, prevented the states from reaching
consensus. And now what we’re having is a breakthrough
moment, where state legislators want to go ahead and have these debates. And Missouri has passed sweeping pro-life
protections by the way that it was meant to be done, through the legislature, not through
the courts. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Missouri, as you mentioned,
is one of many states that is going through this process of enacting restrictions on abortion. And many advocates say, we are trying to trigger
a Supreme Court challenge, we would love the Supreme Court to take this up. Do you think that that review would go in
your favor? MALLORY QUIGLEY: Well, I don’t have a crystal
ball. I don’t know which bill that they will choose
to take up. Missouri, for example, the legislators really
threw in the kitchen sink. It limits abortion at eight weeks. It also limits abortion at five months, which
is when science tell us that the unborn child can feel pain, and there’s a slew of other
regulations. So I do think that a time is coming. The court is probably looking at what’s happening
across country, not just states in Missouri and Louisiana and in the Deep South. We have, you know, probably protections passing
elsewhere across the country. There’s really a lot of momentum. And this tells us that Roe v. Wade isn’t settled
in the hearts and minds of the American people. And so I do believe that the court is going
to have to eventually take up one of these cases. The pro-life movement is doing its part to
give the court a wide range of options. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: All right, Mallory Quigley
of the Susan B. Anthony List, thank you very much. MALLORY QUIGLEY: Thanks for having me.

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