How did you choose to do this instead of maybe having a long distance relationship overseas or something? How did you choose prisoners? Nine years ago I met one, and he kind of just started all this. Do you ever go see them? No. So it’s all pen pal. Um hum, it’s all pen pal. But do you talk to them on the phone? Yes. Oh so you do get to talk to them on the phone? Yeah. What’s the rule on that? You get to talk to them how often? Whenever, some of them can call all the time. Some of them are on 23 out of 24 hour lockdown. So they can call sporadically. We’re talking about kidnapping, attempted murder, car jacking, machetes, we’re talking about some bad dudes here. Does it bother you that they’ve committed crimes of violence against other people? No, I have a no judgements policy. So I’m a messed up person as well, so I don’t judge anybody. Yeah, you figure they’ve made bad decisions and you’ve made bad decisions in your life. Yes. If they got out would you necessarily want to pursue a relationship with any or all of them? A few of them maybe. But one of them’s back in the picture that’s out right now. And you were with him this week? I was with him, yeah. And how does that feel? You had a relationship for how long while he was in prison? We were on and off for nine years. Nine years? Yeah. How much did you think you got to know him during that nine years? I know him like the back of my hand. And once he was out, how much did that fit what you thought he was gonna be like when he got out? It did change, but I kinda knew it would so I kinda always, my sister says no expectations, no disappointments. But you think he’s gonna be a certain way. Like I’ve talked to people before that I only knew over the phone or something in business or whatever and I met them and they were like totally different than I thought they were gonna be, or the same. How was it with you for him? Was he what you anticipated or complete different? Half and half. So some things were different? Yes. Did he show you the respect and attention and all that you would want a man to show you? He did but he was also showing that someone else so when I went through the phone records that’s what led me. So we were just talking about that. Do you think he was talking to someone else while he was in prison? No because he was in federal prison and the minutes are monitored and my crazy self was monitoring our minutes, so every time he would call I’d log it to track our minutes. And you sent him a fair amount of money over nine years, right? Uh hum, close to $50,000. $50,000? Okay, and do you regret that at all? No, no I don’t have a lot of regrets in life. Okay so when I say regret, now that he’s out and you know him and you know that there is somebody else involved, would you like to have that 50 grand back? No. Not even a little bit? No.