Scope 033: Why Choose Natural Childbirth?



okay guys and girls here we are sorry I'm a little bit discombobulated here hi Billy okay so here we are I I don't know about y'all but I'm discombobulated cuz I just broke a nail that sucks doesn't it anyways uh-huh I am I don't know about you but it feels like it's been forever since Friday to me even though really it hasn't I think it's because last week was a holiday week and we homeschool our kids and we took the week off from schooling too and so now we're just getting back into things and I guess for whatever reason it feels like it's been forever since then even though we've yeah it's just in this one of those random nail breaks too that's going to drive me nuts until I'm done with this thing can go trim that nail but anyways because there was no reason for it to break but better than that let's see what are we here for we are here and I again it feels like it's been forever since I've done a scope but really it hasn't so what we're going to talk about today is why why consider choosing natural birth or why do natural birth I was sitting down thinking about like what are the topics that I want to do for scopes this week and I was thinking well I've talked quite a bit about having a natural birth and about babies and about healthy pregnancy but I haven't covered one of these basic things which is why why would we even want to consider having a natural birth for our baby and so I thought that would be a good thing to talk about today before I jump into that though I want to remind y'all that today is the last day of the natural birth and baby care anniversary sale natural birth and baby care actually turned ten years old on the twenty-sixth which was Thanksgiving here in the United States I hope everybody stateside had a happy thanksgiving we had a great thanksgiving i'm very thankful so anyways natural birth and baby care also turned to 10 on Thanksgiving which was a lot to be thankful for I never would have imagined that my website I just I couldn't have 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organization that focuses on on the inherent value and worth of our moms on a worldwide scale so I'm happy to be supporting them and I can't wait to cut them a check at the end of this week so so ten percent of all sales are going to go to their into the year fundraising drive which is an honor for me to be able to support such an awesome organization so again that's over in the natural birth and baby care shop natural birth and baby care calm / shop pretty easy to remember their check that out forty percent off of everything with that I'm Kristin obviously for natural birth and baby care calm and today we're going to talk about we're going to get right back to the basics why would you even consider a natural birth for your baby and i think i really think that most of us we have like this hazy foggy kind of idea that a natural birth is the ideal though some some people think it's just martyrdom but most of us you know we have like this kind of thought that oh well of course natural birth would be the ideal but but we don't when we're asked to you know pen down why we don't really know and i think it's actually a cool thing to revisit as i was thinking about this scope because a lot of times i assume that that the moms and dads who come to my website they already know that they want to have a natural birth and so they've already gone through the wise of natural birth and what they really need to know is oh my gosh how do I make it through labor without asking for drugs so so you know that's that's kind of the perspective that I come from a lot but as I was thinking about it you know I don't want to take the Y for granted especially not right now because we're finding out so much so when I had my first baby which was almost 14 years ago she turns 14 on Saturday almost 14 years ago I knew that natural birth was best for my baby I knew that it was good for bonding and I knew that you know I didn't want any drugs in my baby system or anything like that so I had you know that kind of nebulous idea as to why natural birth was a good thing but what we've discovered like just in the past decade or the past decade and a half about the benefits of natural birth is really very fascinating so we've always known I mean maternity ward nurses have been able to say for a long time that they can tell the difference between a baby from a mom who had medications even even epidural medications during labor and the baby of a mom who didn't and remember an epidural is not actually the medication they put a medication into the epidural so the epidural is actually kind of the procedure that they do and it goes into the epidural space in the spine but they put a medication in there and then also so labor but labor medications can encompass more than that more than just the epidural so if you get an injection and it goes into the ivy that's that's a medication and really any any medication in your birthing time so pitocin augmentation or depending on where you are in the world sentosa non is what it's called synthetic oxytocin anything like that any medication introduced is that's all labor medications that are coming on board and I actually made notes to make sure that I covered everything so you're going to see me glance at those but but you know natural birth is we've really discovered that it Prime's for and it's very important for so many different reasons so first let's let's actually define natural birth and I touched on it here just a second ago I got a little bit of a head ahead of self so natural birth means a birth without drugs and really I want to say it means a birth without interventions and that's that's something that you know where we are I don't really think that as a society we are really to that point yet but I want to assume that you guys are progressive and so we're going to go there we're going to go there so a mom whose labor is messed with so she's forced into one position she's forced into one place she's got you know monitors strapped all over so she looks like she ought to be auditioning for a part in a cyborg movie or something you know that's that's interrupting birth so even though a mom might not have medications onboard we're still messing with the birth process and that it's important to understand that when we talk about the benefits of natural birth but fundamentally when most people think about natural birth they're thinking no drugs or no pain medications but I want to challenge you to think that natural birth is not just no pain medications but as I touched on a minute ago no medications at all not even like induction medications now obviously if a mom needed medications no so baby baby yeah they don't it is true the the problem with synthetic oxytocin is it can only mimic one part of what actual oxytocin does and so natural oxytocin crosses the blood-brain barrier and this is actually something that we're just beginning to understand so that's a great question our natural oxytocin crosses the blood-brain barrier so it has an effect on mom and also when our natural oxytocin levels increase those trigger other things for instance beta-endorphin the beta endorphin surge of Labor and I'm actually going to hopefully get it done this week put out an article on the hormones of labor this week that will talk about this more and Sarah Buckley has done a lot of work on this dr. Sarah Buckley her book gentle birth gentle mothering is an excellent book but anyways the so natural oxytocin crosses the blood-brain barrier which kind of it has a lot of pain relieving effects in and of itself it triggers other hormones and all of those can cross to influence baby synthetic oxytocin which is pitocin or sentosa non depending on where you are in the world doesn't it doesn't make that cross it has only the physical effects of causing harder contractions but it doesn't have the I guess more subtle effects or the brain chemistry connection effects that natural oxytocin does so it actually subverts which is why when I say we're talking about a natural birth it's important to say we aren't just leaving off pain medications but also that we're leaving off we're leaving off techniques that are used to try and control labor and that's you know that's what synthetic oxytocin is it's an attempt to control labor and make it do what we what the doctor whomever wants it to do okay so and when when we bring those things on board it fundamentally change this labor like we just points it out it changes like all of mom's pain responses it changes what flows to baby and what goes to baby it just changes the entire pattern of labor and that's also why it's important to to realize that that that procedures can interrupt labor just like drugs so really a natural birth is a birth where you're able to be free or at least hopefully compromise on on all these procedures and medications so no induction no being strapped down to to these monitors and belts and really ideally not being tethered to an IV pole for your entire labor I mean that some moms they find that they can make you know they can make these little trade offs where they might be able to have a hep lock instead of having the IV and constantly but so even if you have to compromise like that to make little compromises those compromises are much better than being stuck in bed where the natural flow of birth can't happen now why why is that so important I mean of course when we think about it it's important because it helps I mean it helps make labor less painful and less intense those like beta endorphins are actually natural opiates I mean they there what's kind of responsible for you probably heard women talk about they were in labor land be for this kind of feeling that you're like floating above you're in the universe you're one with all the moms who are birthing now are one with all the women who have ever given birth throughout time women described it in different ways yeah obviously we understand that if there's a complication there might be a reason not to have a natural birth but the reality is is the number of complications that we have today is is really ridiculous I mean when we're talking about thirty forty fifty percent cesarean rates half of the women in the world are not broken and when we look at some places eighty ninety percent that number of women aren't broken and yes yes that's great that's great a lot of these complications are caused by interventions that subvert the birth process I am NOT saying that any woman who has a real true bona fide complication should say no to medical intervention I don't think that anybody who's ever written read anything that I've written who's listened to me talk on these scopes who's listened to me talk on my podcast who's read my email newsletters who's watch my youtube videos none of y'all are going to believe that i would say that a woman should deny an intervention to have a natural birth if it's going to be a life-saving intervention for her and her baby but the problem is as many of these interventions cause later complications it's the thing is is with natural birth is most doctors I can't remember who said this I saw this quote just recently but most doctors have studied to become obstetricians and they've gone through what you know under grad school and then four years of grad school and done residency in obstetrics and stuff and most of them have never ever seen a normal natural birth they have never seen a woman give birth in the wild so to speak they have never seen a woman give birth in her natural state they have no idea now I think that that's starting I mean like I've got don't know where it is I got hold of stuff sitting up there anyways okay I mean this is an obstetrics textbook here and if you read this you can see that things are changing you know you can see that obstetrics is starting to pay more attention to physiologically what really happens not just mechanically that's the problem we've understood birth in a mechanical perspective first stage second stage 3rd stage dilation up to 10 centimeters all that stuff but we aren't cars you know you can't Jack us up and crank US open and measure us with a million and use a millimeter socket wrench or whatever you know we're not cars we're living beings and what happens is a physiological thing I mean I'll step out on a rope and say that it's not so simplistic as if you guys were to go Jack your car up in the garage read the technical manual and follow the directions okay birth is an incredible thing and it's an incredible Symphony an incredible Orchestra whatever you want to call it I mean it's just yeah it's but the thing is is it's that's why I'm pointing that and I don't mean to sound hostile or anything but that's usually the very first thing people say well my baby had a cord around his neck and he was about to die and you know what that's I'm sorry but that's totalement malarkey that's one of the biggest ones that people say the doctor saved my baby because the cord was around his neck and the reality is is a cord around a baby's neck it's like absolutely a non-issue it's just not an issue it's like but those are the myths perpetuated by our society which runs on a medical paradigm of childbirth and it's just wrong the rate of true interventions the rate of truly needing life-saving interventions for childbirth is like under five percent and even in the United States we're talking like above a 30-percent cesarean right now when the World Health Organization a medical body you know says ideally it's like ten to twelve percent or less and in most impractical is really dedicated to natural birth and still has great outcomes you generally see like a five percent cesarean rate all right and and like a zilch percent forceps or vacuum extraction kind of rate you know because generally a cesarean is actually safer than those things in a lot of instances but um but you know the reality is as everybody says well what about a financial you know what about if a complication happened but the reality is is if you leave birth alone usually that's not going to happen the thing is is we mess with birth right away it was an obstetrician who said this and I don't remember his name and I don't have the quote right in front of me but his quote was something along the lines of the moment a woman starts out steps outside of her front door in labor is the very first intervention the interventions have begun it's like from there on most women are going to have their labor messed with and it's just I'm not saying I mean most of my students I teach childbirth classes and most of them are going to have their babies in hospitals so I'm not against you know walking outside of your door to go somewhere to have your baby but the reality is as most of the interventions are unnecessary and a good number of them are actually harmful and they're causing problems and if we went back to really supporting women and really supporting birthing women and truly trying to understand what it was and not just trying to make it fit patterns that obstetricians wrote down 50 years ago when they didn't know any of this stuff about hormones about mother baby physiology or anything it would look a lot different they have this rule of thumb that you're not supposed to bring in a procedure or an intervention or something until you've proven that it's useful that hasn't been followed with obstetrics for instance fetal monitoring is shown to be essentially useless or even harmful scientific study after scientific study after scientific study has shown that yet it was introduced with no real testing and now they say that the bridden burden of proof is on the researchers to prove it's not harmful they brought it in with no evidence whatsoever that it was helpful and now they say oh you gotta prove it to get it to get it out so it's just you know and I mean I think if we need interventions than we need interventions but everybody knows that if we need interventions we need interventions what we really need is is to teach people why we should try and avoid the interventions so I guess that's kind of a you know we kind of got off on a tangent but we touched on some things here but some of just some of the things that we've started to understand I've mentioned the hormones a few times so something else that we're just starting to understand this microbiota and how the microbiome impacts things for our babies so a lot of us are you may have heard some about this because it's starting to be in the news a lot that cesarean babies don't get the same microbiota as babies born vaginally and and also another thing going on is the widespread use of prophylactic antibiotics prophylactic means preventative they're not there for any reason except to prevent a what if those also really mess with the microbiota at birth even when there's a vaginal birth so again we have something on board drugs on board that are changing the natural environment and and really microbiota is important because we know that it colonizes baby's gut bacteria which can have a huge implication researchers are also finding that it has a huge response up you know it makes a huge difference for our immune response going forward into life also it may have an implication for how lean or or obesity rates those sorts of things in our babies and also that that it may have an impact on brain development later those are all things that we're just starting to understand we're just starting to experiment with most of most of the research on how it influences brain development has been done in mice and we know that that doesn't necessarily you know doesn't necessarily transfer to human studies but of course we also know that we can't really is they would say that it's unethical to do these studies in humans which is why I don't understand why we continue with the huge unethical experiment of totally subverting natural you know mother nature's plan for birth but basically I mean what we're seeing is that choosing to interfere with birth can have major effects on mom and baby like from a microbiome standpoint from a hormonal standpoint when we look at the hormones of birth we know that when mom and baby are looking at each other in those first minutes after birth the oxytocin levels are at a lifetime high I mean it's so high that everybody in the room gets a contact high from off of four off of it maybe that's why people go into birth because they like that contact high but it's like it's a mother's lifetime high that she's feeling when she's feeling that and she's looking at her baby and she and her baby had that connection now I I totally think the human beings are very intelligent you know we're not animals so we don't reject our babies if such and such imprinting hasn't happened but surely there is an effect that's meant to be there when we're first looking at our baby and again in the case of a needed intervention of an unavoidable complication mother and baby might be separated but ideally and the way that it should be for most moms and babies is that that first moment should be respected and that bonding in that imprinting and we know too that a lot goes on with the smell and with pheromones there's all kinds of transfers going on that are bonding a mother and a baby and those things are important from a biochemical standpoint in in bonding and attachment and lactation and breastfeeding we know there was just a study done recently that underscored again that labor medications actually I do I haven't I actually wrote an article I wrote it for modern alternative pregnancy called take it off why is something like why you should drop your newborns hat but i will put that articles link on my scope page so natural birth and baby care calm / scope i'm about to hop off and do a mama baby birthing call right now so i'll try and remember to get it up after the call but um but i do have that that article which I wrote pretty extensively on it's not talking about totally issuing baby hats you know I love baby hats I think they're super cute but in that immediate newborn period leave the Hat off your baby so that you can smell your baby's head so that that pheromone and those old factory triggers get hit and and again like i was saying those yes skin to skin is very important skins is it when a baby is against your skin and this actually isn't totally true just for you know it's not just for moms this actually works for daddies too but when a baby is on your skin your body adapts your body regulates your baby's respirations it regulates your baby's heart rate it regulates your baby's temperature regulates your baby's glucose levels that's blood sugar I I guess that just blows my mind it's like how does that happen but it really happens which is great for bonding and it takes the stress off of your baby system from having to do all that and that frees up your baby's energy for growth Plus this is going back to just moms here obviously plus that skin-to-skin interaction with your baby helps to stimulate milk production it encourages baby to want to nurse frequently it encourages babies babies will need and they will lick and that's just you know that that helps to stimulate milk and that's a really important thing too so skin-to-skin is important for so many different ways and it's definitely the researchers have shown that most of the benefits for baby come from just being skin-to-skin with anybody mom or dad so that's really excellent and especially if you've got a low birth weight baby our baby who's had any issues at all lots of time skin to skin and also if any of you had that initial bonding period interrupted I really think that the best way to get back those effects are to be skin-to-skin with your baby a lot just because then you're basically inviting all those triggers and just you have a button up shirt like I do now and just put baby in and wrap baby up and the two of you just spend lots of time together I'm skin-to-skin with baby just dress down to a diaper and it's really wonderful so the other thing that I really think is important to point out and I know we're getting to the end of time here but the other thing that I want to challenge everybody to think about with a natural birth is that all these hormones and everything lining up they do a really wonderful thing for moms which is giving them this this naturally fuel burst of confidence when their birthing their baby and and I guess I wrote down in my notes you know do we really have the right to undermine a woman's confidence and then claimed that it was for her good or that it was to save her baby when in reality we know that it wasn't when in reality we know that it was to preserve the status quo or to fit in with Hospital protocol or any care providers protocol do we really have the right to say well you should just be grateful for what you get because you have a healthy baby I don't really think that we have that right i mean if any of you were to sit down and talk to me I mean I'm not a feminist at all like you know I'm not a rabid feminist or anything like that but I do think that we're unfair to women in this and and really patronizing and in a lot of ways and it's that that we continue to perpetuate the lie that it's for your baby's own good and doing it any other way would be dangerous and harmful to your baby and you should just sit back shut up birth the way that we want to and be grateful when we deliver a healthy baby folks pizzas are delivered women birth their babies okay and mom should be able to birth their babies and should be able to enjoy that confidence always there going to be complications and I do think that a woman has the right to make the choice to take all the complications that are on the buffet or I'm all the interventions that are on the buffet if she really wants to but I also feel that if women understood that they can have a natural birth and that if they were supported in that that they were equipped with the skills for how do I get through this without drugs you know if they knew how to do that and if they were supported in that and not undermined and their confidence not undermined and their confidence not shaken and we celebrated that yes there are some moms and babies who need help but most moms you know can most moms can have a great natural birth and it might be some effort but the woman who's running a marathon she's putting forth a lot of effort the woman who's climbing a mountain she's putting forth a lot of effort the woman who's winning a tennis match at the Olympics or whatever she's putting forth a lot of effort and we cheer her on we cheer her on during the agonizing hours of training that she puts on to reach that pinnacle of an event but then we tell a birthing woman or a pregnant mom oh no you don't want to go through all that and just sit back and you know let them do the work and get the epidural and it's so so horrible and it's not worth it why do we tell women that they can do anything that they can rule the boardroom that they can climb Mount Everest but they can't have a baby that's what I you know I think that's what we need to look at look at the look at the confidence boost that it gives a young woman an older palm who's already you know doubting herself you know look at the confidence boost that it gives that mom to know that she did it and that she is holding her prize she didn't just you know cross a flimsy finish line or climb a peak that she's going to climb back down from she's holding her prize that gives so much confidence to start to start mothering and you know the benefits of that back confidence that you know that mental high so to speak I think that a lot of the root of our postpartum depression problems and stuff is this undermining of a mom's confidence I mean if we took if we took that out of the equation and truly supported women where would we be and that's you know that's why I think it's good to consider natural birth because sure there's women who need interventions and also a woman who is fully informed can say you know what I know that this was my ideal but I realized that the there's really something going on with my baby and she feels part of the team she feels like she's making decisions she feels like she's respected and listened to and not treated like a little child so she may suffer disappointment about a birth but she's going to feel like she was listened to and valued and that's important too okay with that guys and gals I am supposed to be teaching mom and baby birthing classes right now I'm so I hope that y'all enjoyed this scope I'll see you tomorrow probably the normal time I might do in an hour early because I've got a well child check up for my baby but but we'll see i will i will pop on e they're at noon eastern or one Eastern thank you guys and gals i'll put that article up on the scope about hatting and you all have a great afternoon

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