it's all over the news one of the country's strictest abortion bans could be headed to the Supreme Court as it's been for literally decades abortion remains a constitutional right in America tonight a historic position about abortion hey guys it's Savannah with NBC News so what is the abortion debate so abortion was actually totally legal in the US until the late 19th century woman were able to get them until they could feel the fetus moving which happens around the fourth month of pregnancy that's in the second trimester then in the late 1800s the movement to criminalize it began Mary Ziegler a law professor at Florida State says that at the time doctors were viewed as equal to midwives so they took an anti-abortion stance to separate themselves insisting they knew better when it came to human biology then in the 1950s a lot of Doc's changed their tune and started pushing to legalize abortion again they'd seen really bad birth defects come about from the rubella epidemic and from some medication pregnant woman had been taking for morning sickness at this point no federal law was in place now enter Norma McCorvey a Texas woman in her early 20s she'd had a difficult life and had already given up two kids for adoption in 1969 she was pregnant again and wanted to terminate it abortions were illegal in Texas unless the woman's life was in danger she tried to get an illegal one but couldn't so Norma turned to two attorneys who were interested in challenging anti-abortion laws in court documents Norma went by Jane Roe for privacy the stage for roe v wade that huge case you always hear about was set by several lawsuits that dealt with people's right to use birth control it was based on the right to privacy via the Fourteenth Amendment which the court said protected people's right to choose if and when they wanted to have kids in 1973 the Supreme Court ruled those same ideas protected a woman's right to get an abortion striking down the Texas statute and legalizing abortion nationally but the debate was far from over as more abortion cases came before the Supreme Court States came up with more ways to test the boundaries of the rulings like with this case Planned Parenthood v Casey the Supreme Court ruled that states could create abortion restrictions as long as it didn't put an undue burden on the woman states may not outlaw abortions but they may enact restrictions which could make abortions more difficult to obtain and more expensive abortion really started to become a partisan issue around the time of roe v wade Professor Ziegler says President Nixon first had the idea to turn abortion into a wedge issue aka something that would force people towards one party or another and by the 80s with President Reagan both parties had much solidified their stances on abortion Norma McCorvey the woman at the center of roe v– wade never actually got an abortion later in life she said she regretted her role in the case she actually went on to become a passionate opponent of abortion rights so the two sides of the debate have come to be defined as pro-choice or pro-life people who support abortion rights believe there's a constitutional argument for bodily autonomy so women have a right to choose if and when they want to have a baby people who are against abortion rights believe women should not have that right religion can figure into this pretty hugely to major institutions like the Catholic Church are firmly against abortion rights folks on this side tend to argue that a fetus is a child whose life needs to be protected so a lot of opponents of abortion rights believe life starts at the moment of conception which brings us into another part of this whole debate when does that fetus become a person within the medical community it comes down to when the fetus is viable meaning able to live without the mother with the help of scientific research and development that point of viability is moving earlier and earlier but right now it's around 24 ish weeks at the very earliest according to the NBC News medical unit there aren't any real set answers here and that murkiness definitely contributes to the controversy alabama's kind of center stage because the governor there signed a bill that bans abortion almost entirely with zero exceptions for rape or incest and several states passed what people are calling heartbeat bills these ban abortions as early as six weeks when a fetal heartbeat is first detected which is well within the first trimester that's when most abortions usually happen according to our medical unit this is what happens during those first eight weeks the placenta forms a little shell around some cells the brain and spinal cord start to form as do the beginnings of the eyes ears nose eyelids etc tissues little later make the heart start coming together at this point there are a collection of cells and the heartbeat that's detected is actually those cells vibrating doctors say most women don't feel symptoms until eight weeks into pregnancy to take a pregnancy test a woman's body needs a certain level of the HCG hormone to work four or five weeks in you're still in range for a false negative by six weeks there should be enough hormone to really tell if you're pregnant or not so our medical unit says the six week cutoff leaves very little time to a big potentially life-altering decision so why are all these bills coming up now well the Supreme Court is skewing more conservative than it has in a long time Justice Kennedy who was hired in 2018 had always been more of a swing vote on the Supreme Court when he left that gave President Trump the chance to appoint another conservative-leaning Justice to the court Brett Kavanaugh an activist against abortion rights saw that as a chance to finally overturn roe v wade it's important to keep in mind that none of these bills are in effect now an abortion is still legal in all 50 states experts say it's unlikely roe v wade would be overturned anytime soon and if roe v wade were to be overturned it's important to remember that that wouldn't necessarily outlaw abortion everywhere the decision would go back to the States which means we'd probably see a lot of variance mind you in any situation this is not something you're gonna see anytime soon it'll take years to play out but okay guys I know that was a lot but let us know in the comments if you still got questions and hit that button and subscribe

3 Replies to “What’s the ABORTION DEBATE?”

  1. The medical community doesn't decide "personhood"- Personhood is a legal construct. Many medical professionals have done research and have stated that the life of a new member of our species – i.e. a HUMAN BEING – starts at fertilization.

    In 1981 (April 23-24) a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee held hearings where they discussed when human life begins. Numerous internationally-known geneticists and biologists spoke.

    The official Senate report reached this conclusion:

    “Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being – a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings.”

    Science has confirmed that since 1981 as well. e.g.

    "Zygote: This cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). The expression fertilized ovum refers to a secondary oocyte that is impregnated by a sperm; when fertilization is complete, the oocyte becomes a zygote." Keith L. Moore and T.V.N. Persaud, The Developing Human (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998).

    “gametes are human cells, but embryos are entire living human beings.”

    Dr. Joachim Huarte and Dr. Antoine Suarez (2011)

    Even the utilitarian Peter Singer, who approves of both abortion and the infanticide of handicapped infants, says, “There is no doubt that from the first moments of its existence an embryo conceived from human sperm and eggs is a human being.”

    The pro-life position is that innocent human beings should have human rights – first and foremost a right to life..

  2. It's a shame that this subject is taking an ounce of center stage in the election – In my humble opinion it should be a no brainer .

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